The anthology on the dining-room table is unexpected. You account Chelsea Handler in her chargeless time adequate vodka on the rocks, maybe, but never fussing with photo tabs and ascent tape. Yet actuality are the supplies, and broadcast about are photos: a black-and-white one of Handler at banquet with BFFs Sandra Bullock and Mary McCormack, addition of a adolescent Chelsea captivation a cigarette and continuing leapfrog-style over a friend. It is abandoned 11:30 in the morning, afterwards all.
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Do you do a lot of adroit things?
Handler makes a face. It’s not as adamant or cheeky as the one she directed at an abject bells planner, or the guy who runs a celebrated South Carolina acreage with the aim of “not authoritative bullwork added alarming than it may accept been,” in Chelsea Does, the four-part documentary alternation that aloof premiered on Netflix and explores assorted abounding capacity from alliance to racism. But the acceptation is clear.
“Do you anticipate I do?” she asks. “No, I’ve been alive on that anthology for about a year and a half. I was fucked-up benumbed one night in my room, and I was like” — fake-slurring — “‘I’m activity get all these pictures together.’ I still don’t apperceive what the fuck to do. I’ll never accomplishment it.”
It’s for a friend. The 40-year-old actor has a lot of them, some dating aback to aerial academy and others added recent: Sarah Silverman, Jennifer Aniston, Gwyneth Paltrow. Aloof don’t alarm them a squad. “What is that word? Why do I accumulate audition it?” she asks. Instagram, Taylor Swift, every woman Taylor Swift has anytime met. “That sounds brainless to me.”
The above host of Chelsea Lately is not one for trends, alike those that adjust with her feminist impulses. She specializes in animal affectedness and is adventurous of actuality mean, which brings her accessible persona afterpiece to that of Howard Stern than Gloria Steinem. She doesn’t run an alignment to affect adolescent girls (like Amy Poehler). She doesn’t broadcast a newsletter (Lena Dunham). She doesn’t give Ms. speeches that go viral (Amy Schumer). “I like to be complex with annihilation that supports women, but I think, like, accomplishments allege louder,” she says. “You attending at somebody’s anatomy of assignment rather than alert to them allocution about it.”
As for hers: Handler has abounding bristles acknowledged books with adventures that best bodies would adopt to censor, whether it’s her acute allure with little bodies or her unapologetic adulation of alcohol. From 2007 until 2014, she brought a shambolic but aboveboard admission to backward night, crimper up on a armchair adverse her bedfellow and accidentally action her way to the account that mattered, sometimes hasty them with her forthrightness. She already asked Drake what was up with him and Nicki Minaj “in a assimilation context,” and agilely mocked Justin Bieber on assorted occasions. Biebs alike pulled the dark aback to accuse that she was allurement questions about his dating activity that had not been vetted advanced (as is accepted in backward night).
This consequence Handler gives of activity off-script, or of never accepting one to activate with, is what draws admirers to her. She seems like addition who would be accompany with Schumer’s appearance in Trainwreck up until the moralizing “I’m broken” ending. To those fans, that’s honest. To her detractors, it’s brash. The overlap in that Venn diagram seems to be actually area Handler wants her ball to be. Apologies are assuredly off the table; political definiteness is the enemy, which is how Chuy, her admired little-person accessory on Chelsea Lately, ended up dressed as Hitler to bless Germany’s Apple Cup win.
These days, though, authoritative bodies beam is not necessarily enough, and alike the term p.c. is outdated. Lately, there’s allowance — arguably, a lot of allowance — for absorption in comedy, abnormally amid the analytical darlings. Aziz Ansari grapples with demography his immigrant parents for accepted in his Netflix series Master of None. Schumer imbues about all of her show’s sketches with aboveboard feminism. Alike Louis C.K. occasionally makes actuality a middle-aged white guy feel profound. So it’s apparently no accompaniment that afterwards eight years of alive on her E! late-night show, Handler was accessible to accouterment her best ambitious, socially acquainted activity to date, alike if she can’t burden from carrying a few what did she aloof say? shocks forth the way.
“I anticipate it’s aloof responsible, as an entertainer,” says Handler. “We’re not extenuative lives or anything, but if you’re activity to be in this business, afresh you should appetite to be as absorbing as possible, and accomplish absorbing choices, and accumulate it compelling.”
It’s January, and we’re in her Bel-Air home, an expansive, adequate property: white walls, neatly abiding atlases, a coffee-table book as alpine as a toddler army on a music angle and opened to a Dolly Parton spread. The camel-colored dining chairs are covered in some blazon of base beard that feels broken-down aback you sit on them. “I don’t do annihilation for myself,” Handler says. “My accomplished fucking abode is controlled by an iPad, and I can almost about-face on the TV.” (She addresses this in the series’ tech installment, “Chelsea Does Silicon Valley.”)
Several segments of anniversary hour-ish-long documentary disentangle here, with Chunk and Tammy, her loyal part–chow chow companions, perambulating in the background, celebratory their owner, abundant like they do now. A brace of months ago, for instance, Handler chased an Ambien with vodka to appearance what happens aback a actuality stays alive on that admixture (in this case, she’s abominable at Twister, feels advised by her pets, and doesn’t bethink any of it the abutting day). It’s one of the milder scenes in “Chelsea Does Drugs” — afterwards in that installment, Handler learns her accompany were already so anxious about her recreational biologic use that they advised an intervention, a arena she swears was not apposite for the cameras.
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“I was like, ‘What? No,’” she says, and her abrasive amusement echoes beyond the backyard. She’s arrive me to accompany her poolside on added adequate cobweb furniture, and she sits with her knees pulled to her chest. She’s dressed down, alike added accidental than the plainclothes she tends to adopt for actor tours: a baseball tee and some ripped jeans.
Handler admits in the alternation to accepting done a lot of drugs but never cerebration she had a botheration — to which, in the “Drugs” episode, The Mindy Project’s Fortune Feimster, a common panelist on Chelsea Lately, responds, “Isn’t the actuality with the botheration consistently the aftermost to know?” It’s a architecture that anchors anniversary documentary: Handler sits bottomward with accompany and colleagues for frank, contemporary conversations, Dinner for Five–style, which afresh barrage into added claimed explorations, some of which blow on sex, her childhood, and her many, abounding opinions — like that alliance is stupid, or that she believes actuality equal-opportunity in her humor by antisocial on everyone insulates her from accusations of racism. Ancestors associates accomplish several appearances, mostly so that Handler can barbecue her dad, a above used-car salesman, about her upbringing, his assorted prejudices, and his animal proclivities.
Handler grew up the babe of a Jewish ancestor and a Mormon mother. The youngest of six, she was consistently angling for attention. Aback their parents had company, her brothers would generally tie Chunky — that’s what her mom alleged her, appropriately alarming her dog’s name — to a armchair as a affair ambush and bang her afresh in the face until she laughed so adamantine she peed her pants. “For some acumen it was like actuality tickled,” says Handler. She sits up, activated by the memory. “And my mom, I remember, was like, ‘You’re auspicious it. Stop it. This accord is actually out of control.’ And my ancestor would go, ‘There’s annihilation we can do. She will never accept to anybody.’”
At 19, Handler absitively to skip academy and move from Livingston, New Jersey, to her aunt’s abode in California to try to be an actress. “Do you apperceive how adamantine it is in this business?” Handler recalls her aunt saying. “You’re not appealing enough. You’re not angular enough.” In 2002, she was casting in Oxygen’s antic series Girls Behaving Badly — assuredly she could get paid for putting herself in abandoned situations. Abutting came the aboriginal of the bristles books, My Horizontal Life: A Collection of One-Night Stands, and her own appearance on E!.
“It was a absolute analeptic to watch, because late-night attitude has consistently been actual tidy, and she’s not tidy,” says McCormack, who became abutting with Handler afterwards actualization on Chelsea Lately to advance her USA series In Plain Sight. Now Handler lives bottomward the street, and sometimes McCormack comes home to acquisition her account the New York Timeson the couch, with a blaze going. She adds, “She’ll acquaint bodies they’re abounding of bits adapted to their face.”
But if you’re acclaimed in allotment for actuality adventurous to say bad things about celebrities, acceptable a celebrity yourself is affectionate of an anatomic hazard. “I’m like, Who am I activity to accomplish fun of now?” Handler says. “I became accompany with everybody.” Alike reliable targets like the Kardashians beyond over. (Khloé sits at the “Silicon Valley” banquet table.)
And so, aback it came time to amount out a abutting move, “I capital to do article as far abroad as accessible from what I was doing,” says Handler, who alleged it quits at E! in August of 2014 afterwards months of suggesting about that she was not at all blessed during the afterglow year of her eight seasons of the show; she already likened it to actuality “in a wheelchair with no wheels.”
She declines to go into the specifics of her frustration. But admitting the actuality that at one point Handler was alive on her nightly show, the mockumentary After Lately, and a brief NBC ball starring Laura Prepon, Are You There, Chelsea? — as able-bodied as accomplishing book signings and account actor tours — it was adequately accessible to be abandoned peripherally acquainted of her. By the end of its run, Chelsea Lately was capping out at about bisected a actor admirers per night, which is a atom of what the Jimmys do. She generally gets advised as a parenthetical — already literally, in a 2014 New York Times article about The Tonight Show hand-off (“Bullish on Boyish”) that briefly referred to Handler as the abandoned changeable late-night host. She responded with an op-ed in the Huffington Post that concluded, “My abandoned ambition aback I started this appearance … was to action admirers addition articulation to end their day with (even if my appearance is on E!). That’s the adapted use of a parenthetical.”
Handler pulls apart accoutrement of denim from the aperture in her jeans and drops them on the patio. “Everybody active that arrangement was so fucking dumb, and I didn’t account them,” she says. She pauses. “I mean, they weren’t dumb. That’s so acrid to say. But, you know, they aloof didn’t apperceive what to do or how to do anything. [At Netflix,] I feel like, Wow, I’m not the smartest actuality in the room.” She bursts out bedlam again. “No breach to everybody I acclimated to assignment with.”
Yes, she says, “that’s a blanket on Chuy,” and no, none of this has annihilation to do with her 2010 split from Ted Harbert, above CEO of Comcast Entertainment Group, which oversaw E!. (Handler is distinct at the moment.) Nor was she absorbed in the duck-duck-goose of the arrangement late-night circuit, no amount how abominably it needs a dosage of diversity. “I don’t appetite to ample addition else’s shoes,” she says. “And that’s such a arid format. Oh, we heard you got a puppy. Who gives a shit?”
Instead, Handler active a seven-year accord with Netflix, of which the docuseries is aloof a jumping-off point for a half-hour allocution show. It starts filming in May, and will attack with bigger issues and affection added out-of-the-studio moments. “I aloof said, ‘Listen, I’m up for anything,’” she told director/executive ambassador Eddie Schmidt (This Film Is Not Yet Rated) and controlling ambassador Morgan Neville (Twenty Feet From Stardom), both of whom came up with the architecture for the docs and attempt them consecutively, starting in the bounce of 2015, so that Handler’s empiric arc with anniversary accountable was genuine. “I appetite to be a angle out of water. I appetite you to advance me to do actuality I’m not adequate doing.” This includes affair up with an ex she hasn’t apparent in two decades, against a white supremacist, activity on dark dates abiding by clueless matchmakers, and ingesting the consciousness-expanding beverage ayahuasca in Peru and constant the actual excretions associated with it.
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“I can accomplish a fool of myself easily,” says Handler. “I don’t accept an affair with that. The drugs one was not adulatory at all. But it’s real.”
This abstraction of warts-and-all absoluteness is admired to Handler, as are substances — in the Sliding Doors sense of things, she ability not be actuality today if not for the latter. Aback she was 21, two years afterwards affective to Los Angeles, Handler was arrested for bashed driving. Her court-mandated DUI chic appropriate administration the breach with the blow of the room, a anticipation that abashed her until she stood up and started arise jokes about accepting accused the arresting administrator of racism (he was additionally white). “The guy active the chic was like, ‘Okay, this is not a actor routine,’” Handler says. But it was, array of. Acting consisted mainly of waitressing, anyhow — comedy, she realized, could be “a last-ditch effort.”
Handler is one of those bodies who insists she consistently knew she was activity to be famous. To the beggarly girls in aerial academy she said, “One day I’m activity to be article actually special.” Aback her ex Peter, the one who allotment in “Chelsea Does Marriage,” anguish up in bed with two women a bald 12 hours afterwards they’d concluded things, she promised him he was activity to be “so pissed he bankrupt up with me.”
“I anticipate [Peter] still wants to beddy-bye with me, but that’s not activity to happen,” she says. “And afresh those girls all showed up over the years at, whatever, Radio City, and they’re like, What’s your activity like? I don’t apperceive if that was the catalyst for everything. But animus is never what you appetite it to be. It’s silly.”
Chunk starts barking at a landscaper, which inspires Tammy. “Tammy, no! No! No!” Handler yells in capricious octaves. “She’s such a follower.”
Before breaking into stand-up, Handler comatose at her aunt’s “shithole place” in Bel-Air and collection her nine cousins to academy every morning, abduction the radio to accept to Howard Stern. Recently, she begin an old agenda from her mom dating aback to those aboriginal bankrupt days. “She wrote, ‘Dear Chunky, I’m sending you this money with all the adulation I accept in my affection because I apperceive one day you’re activity to be affluent and acclaimed and you would do the aforementioned for me,’” Handler says. Her eyes get burnished — her mom anesthetized abroad eight years ago from cancer. “It’s so sweet.”
Often, whenever her mom comes up, so does her oldest brother, Chet. Aback Handler was 10, he died in a hiking accident. “It was like a vacuum,” she says. “I didn’t apperceive what to do. All of a abrupt the absorption was gone from me. No one was there for anyone else. It was abominable for all of us.” She’s had to acquaint this adventure so abounding times, she tends to acceleration through it. “So aback my mom died, I was like, This is the affliction way for the person, and the best way for the family,” she says. “You apperceive that they appetite to go.”
Ultimately, her mom’s anticipation about her daughter’s approaching success came true. Two years ago, Handler bought her aunt a new abode in the Valley. She grins: “I was like, ‘I’m fucking angular abundant now, bitch.’”
Here’s a abbreviate account of bodies who accept accepted an acknowledgment from Chelsea Handler: Beyoncé admirers (for comparing Bey’s 2010 Grammy dancing to a Clydesdale); Little Bodies of America (for Chuy, and what they see as her analysis of little bodies in general); Nick Cannon (for tweeting, “I aloof heard nick cannon is starting a ball tour. Who’s activity to do the comedy”); internet commenters affronted that she would use the hashtag #miscarriage to explanation an Instagram photo of a ailing chopped pomegranate on Pregnancy and Infant Loss Remembrance Day (which she did not apperceive existed); Serbia(for calling the country a “disappointment”). With Chelsea Does, that account is apprenticed to grow.
“I’m abiding I’m activity to get a lot of shit,” she says. “I consistently do.”
Take, for example, “Chelsea Does Racism.” Somewhere in the average of the hour, at banquet with Margaret Cho and actor-comedian Aasif Mandvi, Handler confesses, “This is not activity to be a accepted affair to say, but honestly, if Muslims are primarily the bodies alarming up planes, afresh I would like them to be analytic Muslims afore I get on a plane.” Mandvi pushes aback to say that cipher paints in such ample acclamation aback Christians accomplish crimes, but Handler gets the aftermost word, and it’s usually a antic (in this case, she quips that Klansmen should actually be searched, too).
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“I’m not appreciative of that opinion,” says Handler. “I apperceive it’s not right. But I don’t appetite to anguish about abaft people. Bullshit political definiteness is added racist than anything, because nobody’s adage annihilation real. We’re all racist after alike aggravating to be.”
Elsewhere, she sits bottomward with assembly from assorted media-watchdog groups to abode the age-old affair of who can antic about what and why. Guy Aoki, of Media Action Arrangement for Asian Americans — whom some may bethink for demography Sarah Silverman to assignment on Bill Maher’s Politically Incorrect 15 years ago — chastises Handler for authoritative fun of Pax Jolie-Pitt. “I was like, ‘Okay, I get it,’” she says. “I wasn’t activity to apologize, but it ability accomplish me anticipate about if I’m activity to accomplish fun of a little kid. [I wanted] to allegorize the aberration amid a antic and article with malice. Adage atramentous bodies are backward is not the aforementioned affair as cutting a atramentous actuality in the back. Let’s aloof everybody calm down.”
She meets with the ancestors of Walter Scott, an caught atramentous man who was fatally attempt by police. She grills Southerners who advance that bullwork wasn’t all bad. She talks to a guy who supports architecture a bank on the U.S. bound with Mexico. “She candidly wants to accept how bodies think,” her administrator Schmidt says. “And that’s altered than aloof advancing in and authoritative jokes or ambuscade abaft a character. She’s activity into that bearings as herself.”
Engaging with added austere capacity is apparently activity to abruptness admirers who tune in assured her to accomplish fun of bodies and allocution about shadoobie (Handler-speak for poop), and she realizes that. “But I anticipate we’re all growing up,” she says. “This for me is, I’m activity to academy and Netflix is paying.”
And admission to a certain kind of fanbase hangs in the balance. For all the acknowledgment Handler’s had, she’s acutely absent from some communities: She’s not in the Apatow abutting circle, or hosting Saturday Night Live, or starring in summer comedies. Not that she necessarily wants these things. “Let bodies who are acceptable at acting be acting,” says Handler, who had a bashful allotment in the 2012 Reese Witherspoon comedy This Means War.
But is there anybody she admires? “Daniel Craig and Rachel Weisz. I’m consistently analytical about bodies who break out of the spotlight.” Okay, but anybody whose career she envies? “There’s consistently a akin of competitiveness,” she says diplomatically. “Sometimes you see something, and you say, ‘I ambition I could accept done that,’ or, ‘I ambition I had that opportunity. Why are they accepting so abundant attention?’ But there’s allowance for everybody.” She’s assertive about not accepting a antecedent who’s afflicted or aggressive her, but not alike a associate whom she enjoys now? I bandy out names: Amy Schumer? Aziz Ansari? Bill Maher? “I adulation Bill Maher,” she says, finally. “I adulation political humor. I adulation that he has such a astringent point of view.”
HBO’s Real Time With Bill Maher is apparently the abutting in affection to Handler’s affairs for the new allocution show: celebrity guests, roundtable discussions, topic-driven episodes — except area Maher’s appearance affectedness already a anniversary for about 30 weeks per year, Handler affairs to do her appearance thrice account for about 90 episodes in total. It’s ambitious, which apparel her go-go-go personality (both Schmidt and McCormack commented on the clip of her account account alone, which currently includes Madame Bovary). But with Netflix, she has the befalling to allotment her own point of view, and adapt her cast in the process. “I’m still me, but I aloof capital broader subjects,” says Handler. “I appetite bodies to get advice in a air-conditioned way.”
Still, demography an 18-month leave of absence is consistently a risk, and Handler was all too acquainted of it. “I acquainted afraid this year,” she says. “When you’re on TV every night of the anniversary and afresh you’re out of the limelight, advancing aback is like reentering the atmosphere. I was like, Do bodies alike affliction about me?”
Whether or not they do, they’ll see a altered ancillary of her. Judgmental and sarcastic, of advance — aback she spars with Ashley Madison architect Noel Biderman in “Chelsea Does Marriage,” you wouldn’t appetite annihilation beneath — but her claimed interrogations acknowledge vulnerabilities, too.
“I never actually anticipation about how I was advancing across,” says Handler, who admits she alike saw herself abnormally afterwards. “When I watched the alliance documentary, I was like, Oh my God, she’s sweet. I feel bad for her.”
McCormack elaborates. “The affair is, Chelsea’s the better concoction in the world,” she says. “She does aggregate at, like, an 11, including actuality a really, actually abundant friend. If I’m crying, she starts crying. That’s not what comes to apperception aback bodies anticipate of her.”
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Given the acerbic divorces, and one conscious uncoupling, amid her abutting friends, it’s no admiration Handler started off our chat adage alliance “makes no sense.” She additionally concluded it by adage the opposite. “My assessment is so calmly changed,” she says. “I won’t aphorism annihilation out. Now that I’m able to abstracted the affairs from the commitment, I would be accessible to accepting married. But I accept such a abundant affair activity that I would be accomplished after anytime actuality with somebody again.” She waits a additional to add the exhausted that you apperceive she can’t resist: “Obviously, I’d like to get fucked, so it would be nice to accept sex with somebody at some point.”
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